October 25, 2018

It’s always best to sell the shovels during a gold rush, and Gauer is doing just that.  He is the founder of – a copper tablet and toolkit that lets you punch your wallet’s pass phrase into permanence.  We had a good laugh when I asked if he’d engrave my pass key for me (if you’re newR0; that’s a bad idea, like giving a stranger your bank account PIN), and talked about the importance of key management and how it will help adoption in the long run.


Phrasekeeper is doing a kickstarter launching on Nov. 1. You can find out more at



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